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  "channel_slug": "LocalLLaMA",
  "channel_handle": "r/LocalLLaMA",
  "title": "Is there any reason for an uncensored model if you have no interest in roleplaying?",
  "url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tlzvfs/is_there_any_reason_for_an_uncensored_model_if/",
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  "upload_date": "20260524",
  "published_at": "2026-05-24T02:49:19+00:00",
  "transcript": "My rag I've been building is much in response to having a LLM that I feel more confident in knowing where the knowledge base is coming from especially after the Open AI deal with the Pentagon. So, when I saw \"uncensored\" heretic models, I thought that was the main usage of those models and thought I would need them.\n\nBut in doing various tests, it seems there's random problems that come up with them that don't come up in regular versions. And then even when I do run into something like qwen3.6 acting like it's giving me a more state approved answer for a no-no topic, I've found that if I just put a prompt ahead of it to not give me any propaganda, it basically \"jailbreaks\" the answer. But, if the model isn't trained on the info anyways, then there's not really a benefit to it.\n\nAre uncensored models just for people wanting...the *special* roleplaying? Before I write them off. Genuinely curious, not judging how people use them.\n\n\n\n--- Top Comments ---\n\n\n[200 upvotes] I’ve use it for stock related research, and I like uncensored models because they don’t refuse to give opinions and skip the whole “I can’t give financial advice “, etc. This doesn’t get around hallucination and you still have to be very critical of it. But it reduces a lot of the friction.\n\n[116 upvotes] Reverse engineering. They won’t fight you on any requests when doing reverse engineering/hacks/etc.\n\n[109 upvotes] Some models  would let you die instead of giving you a medical advice.\n\nSome model wont translate strong words.\n\nSome models wont let you debug a coding problem, because they think you are hacking.\n\nSome models wont answer in historical questions.\n\nSome models wont answer you about nowadays news, even if you feeding it with them, because they refuse to believe that scenarios like usa bombing  iran  could  happen, and the model will think that are you are trying to write fake news.\n\nA heretic model saves you a lot of these corporation stupid things\n\n[101 upvotes] Sometimes the censorship on regular models is silly and impedes development\n\n[71 upvotes] I don't use LLMs for roleplaying, but have found uncensored models useful for some other things.\n\n* Physics research (neutron transport): Some of my work involves Lithium-6 fission for energy applications, but Lithium-6 fission is traditionally associated with nuclear weapons.  Almost all modern models have guardrails around the low-level technical details of nuclear weaponry, and I've had them refuse to infer about my neutron transport work.  Uncensored models do not have this problem.  There is an abliterated GLM-5.1 which I would use for this if I had the hardware to support it, but since I don't, I make do with a mix of GLM-4.5-Air (which is censored) and Qwen3.5-122B-A10B-heretic-v2 (uncensored).\n\n* Persuasion research:  Persuasion (especially propaganda) is intrinsically adversarial and frequently very toxic.  A model with robust guardrails will frequently refuse to infer about content which dehumanizes or demonizes people, or promotes physical harm, but there is a pressing need to analyze exactly such material.  This is why Big-Tiger-Gemma-27B-v3 is my go-to model for persuasion research.\n\n* Violent fiction writing:  I am a fan of Martha Wells' *Murderbot Diaries* novels, wh",
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