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  "channel_slug": "LocalLLaMA",
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  "title": "Local LLMs aren't democratic anymore... the hardware barrier has gotten out of hand.",
  "url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u479jf/local_llms_arent_democratic_anymore_the_hardware/",
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  "upload_date": "20260612",
  "published_at": "2026-06-12T20:51:33+00:00",
  "transcript": "When we first started experimenting with local LLMs, it was a completely different story!\n\nWe were using gaming GPUs to tinker around. 8GB or 16GB of VRAM (which wasn't even a given for everyone) was the norm, and so many people could actually get their hands dirty and experiment. Let’s just forget for a second that long crypto-mining phase that bloated the market and caused shortages... but today? Today, if you don't have high-end hardware, experimenting has become way too difficult.\n\nI know some of you will reply saying, *\"Hey, I'm using an RTX 3090 and I'm 100% ok with it,\"* but at the risk of sounding unlikable, I honestly think that misses the point.  \nWe are in 2026 now and a RTX 6000 Pro should be the baseline equivalent of what a 3090 was years ago! The market is completely detached from reality, and local inference is no longer as democratic as I thought it would become.  \n3090 was expensive but accessible at the time. RTX 6000 is 10-13k today! s\\*\\*\\*\\*\\*t!!!\n\nOh, and one last thing: if you're planning to leave a comment hyping up Qwen 3.6, please don't. That model gets mentioned so much around here that I'm starting to think it's not even organic anymore. I suspect too many comments mentioning Qwen even when talking bout Gemma4 are manipulated!\n\nI just really want to talk about how hardware access is no longer democratic. You need way too much money just to run something that, at the end of the day, is just a tool it doesn't automatically generate value for you.\n\nSorry for my English... I have this deeply rooted concept in my head, but I'm not sure if I'm fully conveying it!\n\n\n\n--- Top Comments ---\n\n\n[1 upvotes] Your post is getting popular and we just featured it on our Discord! [Come check it out!](https://discord.gg/PgFhZ8cnWW)\n\nYou've also been given a special flair for your contribution. We appreciate your post!\n\n*I am a bot and this action was performed automatically.*\n\n[182 upvotes] I'm not sure I agree, Gemma4 2b and 4b are so far ahead of anything that could run on low end hardware even a year ago and they run on phone level hardware. And on the image gen side lots of options down to 6gb vram even can do 3d modeling models with Trellis2\n\nBonsai q1 models are pretty good for the size and quant. There's plenty of development in the low end. It's the 70-120b area that is barely getting anything new as the middle models are all 200b+\n\n[124 upvotes] In general the hardware market is just screwed up. I just hope production can step up or China will drop some cheap GPUs at some point.\n\n[121 upvotes] Uh….local LLMs have always required beefy hardware. You’re just realizing it’s not accessible to YOU now \n\n[60 upvotes] Why shouldn't we mention qwen 3.6 27b? It's better than 1t+ models of 6-9 months ago. ",
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