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  "channel_slug": "LocalLLaMA",
  "channel_handle": "r/LocalLLaMA",
  "title": "What happens when they stop subsidizing LLM subscriptions?",
  "url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1ubbj6n/what_happens_when_they_stop_subsidizing_llm/",
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  "upload_date": "20260621",
  "published_at": "2026-06-21T00:08:25+00:00",
  "transcript": "We are literally burning through VC money like crazy with our coding subscriptions. I read the $200 Anthropic sub gets you $8000 worth of API calls. It's obvious that this doesn't hold for very long but what happens when they raise prices?\n\nThe reason to keep the prices low for now is to foster the ecosystem and get people hooked on this stuff, only to raise the price afterwards. Already the 20x sub doesn't get you as much usage as it did 6 months ago, another way to raise prices without triggering a shitstorm - and it will continue.\n\nDon't know about you, but Fable being pulled gave me a feeling of what that may be like already. The ugly thought of \"Damn, should've done more while it was around.\" that formed when I read the news will be exactly the same the moment they announce we now have to pay $2k or more per month for something we get for 10x less the price it costs now.\n\nI guess it's a now or never situation, build what you can and monetize as quickly as possible to be able to keep the agents running once the increases come around.\n\nLooking at opensource doesn't give me much hope. Since qwen stopped releasing models (wen qwen 3.7?) that we can actually run on hardware that a normal person can buy (or used to be able to buy, looking at how RAM and GPU prices behave and keep behaving) and others haven't released in a while (Microsoft, IBM, AllenAI and others too) I feel we're going into a direction that doesn't look good for most of the people like us, who are building with this technology.\n\n\n\n--- Top Comments ---\n\n\n[124 upvotes] Western AI labs collapse. Deepseek carries on as normal.\n\n[43 upvotes] > I read the $200 Anthropic sub gets you $8000 worth of API calls\n\nliterally no one knows if this is true, we have no idea how the black box works, we don't know if APIs get full bit models and subscriptions get weaker quants\n\nwe do know _inference_ is already profitable, we already know that deepseek with the lowest margins make 500% margins on inference compute. There will be  incentives to lower costs. Training will get cheaper as we figure out more techniques\n\n[36 upvotes] If that happens we will just do it slower, not 100-1000 t/s but 1-10, life will go on and using local LLM will actually grow.\n\n[20 upvotes] Local AI isn't going away. Most companies will invest in their own on-premises hardware and host it in a datacenter\n\n[21 upvotes] They are in a net positive by a huge margin due to most people not utilizing their subscriptions to the fullest potential. API prices have huge margins too, anyway. ",
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