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  "video_id": "reddit_1ubjnh5",
  "channel_slug": "LocalLLaMA",
  "channel_handle": "r/LocalLLaMA",
  "title": "Qwen is never going to open source Qwen 3.7, aren't they?",
  "url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1ubjnh5/qwen_is_never_going_to_open_source_qwen_37_arent/",
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  "upload_date": "20260621",
  "published_at": "2026-06-21T07:25:31+00:00",
  "transcript": "Well, this was predictable. After Qwen fired Junyang Lin, the next models are no longer open source.\n\nIgnoring the small models for a minute, they’ve fully locked down all the big models. No Deepseek/GLM competitor.\n\nAnd all the rumors on chinese weibo now say that the small model Qwen team is gone, and that Qwen 3.6 (and maybe 3.7) was the last model Junyang Lin worked on. There's not going to be any open source small models from Qwen anymore.\n\nLabs that have released open source models more recently than Qwen:\n\nGLM-5.2, 2026-06-17  \nKimi-K2.7-Code, 2026-06-12  \nMiniMax-M3, 2026-06-11  \nStep-3.7-Flash, 2026-05-29  \nMiMo-V2.5-Pro, 2026-04-27  \nDeepSeek-V4-Pro / V4-Flash, 2026-04-24\n\nAKA as of now, Qwen is now the last major Chinese AI lab that hasn't released an open source model recently. Everyone else has released an open source model more recently than Qwen, and the 3.7 line remains fully closed source.\n\n\n\n--- Top Comments ---\n\n\n[143 upvotes] Most likely, they will release Qwen4 instead. They already have the best open-weight models, so until someone else surpasses them, they won't be releasing a new model anytime soon.\n\n[83 upvotes] Guys it's been like three months. Qwen3.6 is still undisputed king of local inference for anyone buy the 1%ers.\n\nDon't panic yet.\n\n[54 upvotes] Nobody has released anything better than qwen3.6-27B in the size range. Still it's the SOTA on its category.\n\nWhat I would like to see is OpenAI releasing something, as gpt-oss was very good.\n\n[47 upvotes] I think we shouldn't be expecting everey few months a new Qwen model. People are still very happy with 3.6 27B for instance.\n\nWhether we will see another model, I guess we'll see. I'd certainly like to see another big leap and rather wait for a Qwen 4 27B to 70B model.",
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