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  "title": "Anthropic accuses Alibaba of campaign to ‘brazenly’ and ‘illicitly’ extract AI capabilities",
  "url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1ueyl2i/anthropic_accuses_alibaba_of_campaign_to_brazenly/",
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  "upload_date": "20260625",
  "published_at": "2026-06-25T03:20:59+00:00",
  "transcript": "[https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/24/anthropic-alibaba-distillation-campaign.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/24/anthropic-alibaba-distillation-campaign.html)\n\n[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-24/anthropic-accuses-alibaba-of-illicitly-accessing-its-ai-models](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-24/anthropic-accuses-alibaba-of-illicitly-accessing-its-ai-models)\n\n\n\n--- Top Comments ---\n\n\n[582 upvotes] The output of LLMs isn’t even copyrightable. Anthropic doesn’t own it. Unlike the data they scooped up to train it. \n\n[415 upvotes] https://preview.redd.it/7v9q2radnc9h1.png?width=400&format=png&auto=webp&s=2b05834c0e11dd344f65ecd5773f840d26b45ced\n\n\n\n[202 upvotes] Yeah Dario, imagine illegally using data to train LLMs.\n\nhttps://authorsguild.org/advocacy/artificial-intelligence/what-authors-need-to-know-about-the-anthropic-settlement/\n\nhttps://www.insidetechlaw.com/blog/2025/09/bartz-v-anthropic-settlement-reached-after-landmark-summary-judgment-and-class-certification \n\n[154 upvotes] Well, why don't you release an open model?\n\n[122 upvotes] I get that it’s a EULA violation but everything Dario tries politically seems to backfire. And I suspect this will too.\n\nFirst the Mythos “please regulate us, but hopefully just trust us” backfired and he’s given Trump enormous leverage just prior to their IPO.\n\nNow he’s telling the entire world that his company, which is essentially in the business of distillation as well, doesn’t like it when it happens to them.\n\nLike what does he think the Senate is going to do about 25,000 bot accounts  using residential proxies? Block Internet access from China?\n\nSo rather than pursue whatever can be done privately, he’s told the entire stock market that their moat is even thinner than already realized. And he’s given a new group of politicians an opportunity to exert leverage on them as well. \n\nIf I’m a senator my question is why can’t Mythos solves this for you? ",
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