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  "title": "Google keeps losing top ai researchers, the moat was never the weights",
  "url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/artificial/comments/1ugbwol/google_keeps_losing_top_ai_researchers_the_moat/",
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  "published_at": "2026-06-26T16:38:18+00:00",
  "transcript": "Shazeer to openai, then John Jumper (the alphaFold nobel guy) to anthropic, plus Adler and Pritzler out the same door within a week. Every time one of these drops the framing is google is bleeding. I think people are reading it backwards.\n\nIf the people who actually trained the thing can leave and instantly matter at a competitor, the weights were never the asset. The judgment about how to steer a model, what to eval it on, where it breaks, that stuff lives in heads not in checkpoints. Hardware you can buy. That you cannot.\n\nWhat it means for the rest of us is simpler than the talent drama. If capability is going to keep walking between labs every few months, betting your whole stack on one provider's model is a bet on that lab keeping its people, which is the one thing you cannot control.\n\nI stopped caring which lab is quote winning this quarter. The move is keeping the model layer swappable so a shakeup at one place does not strand the work. Mine runs through verdent with byok but honestly any setup that lets you reroute works, the point is not the tool, it is not being married to one model.\n\n\n\n--- Top Comments ---\n\n\n[21 upvotes] It really is crazy just how badly Google shit the bed with the release of 3.5. I swear 3.1 Flash is better even. \n\n[11 upvotes] I've run software tech in a couple of leading edge SV companies and always tell people, customers, investors, potential hires that it's not the IP you currently own. It's the ability to generate new IP that makes us the company to bet on. When these people leave you lose that value\n\n[10 upvotes] I still think in the longer run Google will come out on top of this race, they have the budget , the TPU hardware and they have the data (everyone's Gmail accounts for instance). The AI's will soon be at a point were they are better at building the next model than the researchers are, then we are on the path to ASI.\n\n[8 upvotes] Google never shows their hand they got shit going on that nobody even thought of!",
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