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  "title": "Jurgen Schmidhuber on X: “Some claim that AGI is here now. Ridiculous. No AGI without mastery of the real world!”",
  "url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1waenvo/jurgen_schmidhuber_on_x_some_claim_that_agi_is/",
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  "upload_date": "20260908",
  "published_at": "2026-09-08T04:48:33+00:00",
  "transcript": "“Some claim that AGI is here now. Ridiculous. No AGI without mastery of the real world! No true self-improvement without self-improving hardware, as opposed to the already existing, self-improving, meta-learning software \\[DLH\\]. \n\nQuote from Sec. 20 of \\[DLH\\]: \"As I have often pointed out, the only AI that works well today is AI in the virtual world behind the screen, for example for automatically summarizing documents, creating images, programs and PowerPoint slides. But there is no AI-controlled robot that can do what a plumber can do \\[DYS23\\]\\[JY24\\], or what a capuchin monkey can do, because the physical world is much more demanding than the world behind the screen. Passing the \"Turing Test\" \\[TUR3,a,b\\]\\[TUR21\\] is much easier than True AI or Real AI in the physical world \\[95-25\\]. Hence the Turing Test is not a good way of measuring intelligence. To achieve True AI, AI software research per se is not enough, it has to be combined with the physical world of machines and robots. No AGI without mastery of the real world!\"\n\n\\[DLH\\] J.S. Annotated History of Modern AI and Deep Learning. Technical Report IDSIA-22-22, IDSIA, Switzerland, 2022 (updated 2025). Preprint arXiv:2212.11279 https://people.idsia.ch/\\~juergen/deep-learning-history.html”\n\nhttps://x.com/schmidhuberai/status/2097054616471150735?s=46\n\n\n\n--- Top Comments ---\n\n\n[45 upvotes] It's hard to argue that we have developed generalized intelligence if it cannot be deployed to generalized tasks. \n\n[30 upvotes] Mastery of the real world? What does that even mean, it is an even more vague and nonsensical requirement than \"general intelligence\".  \n\"No true self-improvement without self-improving hardware\"\n\nWhen has that become part of AGI? Are we now fully converting that to mean just RSI/ASI?\n\n[26 upvotes] Christ 90% of the posts on this subreddit are people arguing about definitions. Who cares. Talk about what the model can do instead of what label it fits into.\n\nAI currently is at the frontier of mathematics and computer science.\n\nAI currently cannot reliably control every actuator.\n\nDone.",
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